View Full Version : can you really learn physical skills from a video!!!
giveupbehaviourismnow
20-08-2007, 01:52 PM
This is on youtube and it worries me as I don't believe you can learn these skills from a video.
it says non-violent but then talks about "Breaking posuture points!"
have a look, there are loads more from this guy as well.
what do you think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R-qgmq77iE
forumAdmin
20-08-2007, 04:10 PM
it is a very scary reality but there is an awful lot of this stuff ...........
becky
21-08-2007, 08:23 AM
That is really scary. I certainly would not like to be on the recieving end of those techniques. With adrenneline added to the equation these moves could cause some serious damage.
Sarah
26-10-2007, 12:11 AM
not too sure why someone would be looking on YouTube to find out about learning physical skills! far better to ahve hands on experience: TeamTeach is an excellent way of dealing with physical issues
forumAdmin
26-10-2007, 07:38 AM
There are many training organisations accredited by BILD to do this work
all could therefore be called excellent. The one you mention is a competitor.
far better to ahve hands on experience: TeamTeach is an excellent way of dealing with physical issues
I believe you may be correct but as a competitor my view is we are better. I have never done a Team Teach course but I have met a reasonable number of people who have and their feedback is at best - varaible.
Video's are a frightening medium and certainly not a good mechanism for learning. However, because so many people view youtube, we are going to make a Studio3 position statement about the merit of posting such material including the dangers of using this medium as an instruction aid.
steveg
26-10-2007, 10:26 AM
I have not seen this youtube video, so can't comment on it at the moment but with the ever increasing appetite for internet based media and "getting the message" across, I feel we can never completely rule out the use of new media methods such as youtube or even podcasts.
I'm not saying that Studio III should have a full detailed video of techniques out there. That would be wholly inappropriate for us and indeed any company.
But what is important is that if these formats are to be used, then they should be seen as one facet in getting that "message" across and put into specific context.
As a Trainer I often get asked if we have a book of photo's or drawings of techniques so that people can remember the skills they have been taught.
The issues with any "aid memoir" whether its a book, handout or video, is that they can be used as tools to cascade the infomation en mass and therefore negate the need to attend a course.
If developed and used properly and in the context as a supporting tool, they can be a very powerful resource.
Any form of training whatever the subject, is always more rewarding and successful if you have face to face contact with peers and with a trainer/teacher.
I've yet to read, see or hear an interview where the guitarist of a suceessful rock group has attributed their skill to "Bert Weedons 12 steps to playing a guitar" book!
Birkeby
26-10-2007, 10:41 AM
That depends.....
this is not, -non violent defence !!! defence - ok!
If you are trained, in the martial art style they are introducing, you can have some benefits of af video clip, showing some details in at teknic matter.
But calling it none violent is far out!!
Next, is it possible that matial arts training is benefitial for a low arrousal approach in working with people with a challenging behavior???
Yes, would be my answer.
I have been training karate in 20 years give or take.
Knowing balance, knowing the bodys weak and strong movements mixed with some neuro and psychological studies, have helped me develop a non violent, low arrousal approach i my 25 years work with people with autism and challenging behavior.
Besides knowing that i´m able to fix me out of any situation, is giving me a opportunity to hav a calm, non affraid and non violent and a low arousal aproch.
I havent been training for these purposes, all though they are benefits of
a beloved sport, which it is - a sport
Learning anything from video clips... nahhh. they are taken out of a context that needs repated several times. Video clips will not learn anybody usefull defence, - maybe a 100 dirty tricks.
/ Tina
I suppose it is the difference between a properly trained martial artist by an instructor with a good philosophy
and
someone who learns some tricks on a 2 day course...............
their focus may be slightly "off track".
All my experience of experienced martial artists met on courses is positive - having the confidence NOT to use the Physical. But I stress the word experienced, I do mean years,
but my experience of those with much less physical knowledge, i.e. some martial arts training, is they tend to want to use it.
giveupbehaviourismnow
26-10-2007, 02:32 PM
I am not a martial arts expert but I have the confidence to say that skills such as listening and acknowledgement of another person as a human being with worth is better than knowing I am able to subdue another human. I choose not to judge with criticism, this is worth more than a lifetime of confidence from martial arts training.
your martial arts will never change the way we treat people, only our hearts will do that. gentleness and understanding is the way forward.
1967 2-3
26-11-2007, 01:00 PM
Originally Posted by Sarah http://studio3.org/members/images/buttons/viewpost.gif[/IMG] (http://studio3.org/members/showthread.php?p=2007#post2007)
"far better to ahve hands on experience: TeamTeach is an excellent way of dealing with physical issues"
I believe you may be correct but as a competitor my view is we are better. I have never done a Team Teach course but I have met a reasonable number of people who have and their feedback is at best - varaible.
.... then you have heard better feedback than I have! And they don't support the Millfields Charter either.
Intorce09
27-12-2009, 08:07 AM
hah i remeber being on your site a few years back...I think ive also seen you on anabolicminds as well
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